Cube Guy (F2P_Pancakes) Mac OS
It also introduced the new APFS file system to take advantage of faster solid state drives and address the looming 2040 date limit from the aging Mac OS Extended file format. High Sierra is a free upgrade for owners of supported systems from Apple Inc. As it turned out, the Mac OS 9 (9.2.1) retail disk is basically too old for the iMac G4. It does boot, it even starts to launch Mac OS 9, but then the screen goes black and that’s it. Looks a lot like an issue with graphics drivers. What I would need is the original Mac OS 9 installation/restore disk that came with the iMac G4. Install Raspberry Pi OS using Raspberry Pi Imager. Raspberry Pi Imager is the quick and easy way to install Raspberry Pi OS and other operating systems to a microSD card, ready to use with your Raspberry Pi. Watch our 45-second video to learn how to install an operating system using Raspberry Pi Imager. More recently, he could be seen briefly during Apple's Back to Mac event, where the company first took the wraps off the upcoming point release of Mac OS X 10.7, dubbed 'Lion.' Offering more than 100 shades of professional quality cosmetics for All Ages, All Races, and All Genders. Enjoy free shipping and returns on all orders.
Microsoft word package. Finding software for a vintage Mac is quite an undertaking. This starts with the operating system itself. Apple obviously doesn’t sell those outdated operating systems anymore. What you are left with are specialized dealers, craiglist or eBay. If you look at the prices at some good dealers like LowEndMac or Hardcoremac.com you’ll notice that we are talking serious money here. For popular PowerPC operating systems such as OS X Tiger or especially Leopard (the last OS X capable of running on PowerPC Macs) you are often looking at price tags above $200 or even $250. That in my personal opinion is just too much for an obsolete operating system, especially if you consider that unlike a PC, your old Mac initially came with an operating system that was included in its price.
If you are like me, you are left with eBay and Craiglist or their local equivalents in your country. That doesn’t mean you get your retail version of OS X or Mac OS there for cheap, but sometimes you can spot auctions or ads for far more reasonable prices like $50 or sometimes even less. You just have to spend a couple of weeks looking for a good find.
You also have to pay attention to what you are looking for. In general Apple operating systems are being offered as retail version, but also on gray disks that initially came with a Mac. These gray installation disks however do work with only a very limited selection of Macs, usually the ones they came with and maybe, just maybe and occasionally, other Macs from the same period.
I got myself OS X Leopard and Tiger (both retail) for $35 and $28 respectively, but it took close to 3 months to find them at these prices. I also snatched an old Mac OS 9 retail CD (unfortunately without the box) for mere $10 at a local store dealing in computer repairs and second hand hardware. Having both OS X Tiger and Mac OS 9 I felt I’m being covered in terms of my iMac G4. Wrong.
As it turned out, the Mac OS 9 (9.2.1) retail disk is basically too old for the iMac G4. It does boot, it even starts to launch Mac OS 9, but then the screen goes black and that’s it. Looks a lot like an issue with graphics drivers. What I would need is the original Mac OS 9 installation/restore disk that came with the iMac G4. Except I find it close to impossible to get one of those. Nobody seems to sell them and if they do, they are usually from a much never iMac G4. Translateq 2 0 3.
If you think going to a forum and ask for help would be a good idea at this point, you are quite mistaken. I did spent some time looking into the problem and reading several related posts on various forums and what I usually found was: whenever someone came up with a problem like that rather than getting offered an image of a disk that would solve the problem he got told off followed by multiple posters telling in harsh words to not pirate software.
I am against software piracy even more than the next guy (I do make my living from creating software), but at least some common sense should be applied. Apple declared these operating systems obsolete, unsupported and doesn’t sell them anymore. At this point what I would expect is being able to download restoration disks for obsolete Macs in the support section. Unlike Windows, Mac OS and OS X are bound to Mac hardware and that’s where Apple makes its money.
What I am left with at this point with my Mac OS 9 installation is turning to torrents and hopefully find the disk I need there. Do I feel bad about? Not even a tiny bit, especially since I actually own a retail version of Mac OS 9. 2017 vgt slot wins.
This brings me to another issue. I would love to try OS X Panther, Cheetah or Jaguar on my iMac G4 just to see how they looked and felt. I do however consider paying upwards of $300 for those systems and especially for that purpose madness. Unlike OS X Tiger or Leopard, the older versions of OS X rarely show up in classifieds or on auctions. And the situation gets even worse when it comes to old software. Check eBay for very popular software like let’s say Office 2001. As I am writing this, eBay.co.uk has tons of books for Microsoft Office 2001, but the only software is an Office 2001 update CD. Finding software that is more rare than Office or games is an exercise in futility. I should know as I am trying for a couple of months now.
Cube Guy (f2p_pancakes) Mac Os X
This is where abandonware comes in. While from a legal standpoint it’s a gray area at best, when one applies common sense to the issue it is the only viable approach available today.
I love abandonware and have been a big fan of sites offering old software and games to download. As a matter of fact, I was also professionally grateful for the service these sites provide whenever I needed to look at some of the software or games I did in the past. Even if I would find the original game somewhere in storage at the office I would still have to battle the stupid copy protection we shipped our games with. Considering I don’t have an optical drive in any of my notebooks for at least 5 years now, that would be a serious problem on its own.
The company I work at and that I am a majority owner of does not care about our old games or software. We don’t sell then, we don’t support them and many people in the team don’t even remember those products anymore. If there are sites that make those products available to fans, then we are glad about it. If there are gamers or users out there who can enjoy our old work, the better. Should we want to use one of those brands to release a sequel, we can just write those sites to take the old products down and from experience from another company I worked for I know they do it quite promptly. Everyone is happy.
Out of curiosity, over the past couple of years I asked a lot of friends in the gaming industry about their opinion on abandonware. To my surprise, most just didn’t give a damn about the subject. Some were fans of it like I am. Few didn’t like the idea, but couldn’t be bothered to do anything about it either. Very few were really glad those sites exists, because their company does not have the one or other game anymore. They never bothered to transfer their products to new storage medias and put them into their backups. These games would otherwise be lost forever.
With more and more companies taking their old games and developing remakes for mobile (iOS and Android), the situation in terms of abandonware might see a change in the future. Until this happens though, let’s just enjoy it.
Just google mac abandonware and you’ll find the major sites on the first result page.
If you have been using computers for a couple of decades or even longer, you are likely to re-discover software and games you used and played in the past. Chances are you payed for many of the ones you downloading today in your past. I know I do.
I slowly start to seriously regret junking my large game collection a decade ago when I moved from one country to another. I do believe games with their original disks and boxes will become proper collector items within the next decade. Maybe not as large as comics are today, but what comics were for the last generation, computer games are for the current one. On the other hand half of my games back then were already so old, the diskettes could not be read reliable anymore. I did keep the boxes in good condition though…
My favorite site for mac software is Macintosh Garden. When it comes to old games, I usually look at My Abandonware and play those oldies on my modern Macs using Boxer. It is basically a Mac port of DOSBox wrapped into a beautifully made user interface making setting those games up and running them incredibly simple.
Now, some very popular oldies cannot be found on abandonware sites anymore, because they again can be bought. You can find them on Steam occasionally, but there is one site you want to put into your bookmarks: gog.com. What those guys do is they license old games, remove copy protections making these games DRM free and modify them to run on recent computers. Then they sell them at bargain prices, usually only for a couple of bucks. Like Steam, they often have great special offers. They currently offer more than 600 games for PC, but their Mac games section is growing nicely, too.
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- The quoted tweet is the second of 2. The first is:
Now the article actually makes sense.in 1995, while interning at apple, i bought a NeXT cube for $150 at stanford surplus while designing mac os X with steve, he liked to tell us how the NeXT was better so i started bringing in my cube to win arguments by showing him that things weren't as good as he remembered - How would he have bought the NeXT 'specifically' for that in 1995? Steve wasn't back at Apple and OS X wasn't in the work.
He had the NeXT fo years and brought it in to proof Steve wrong. - More Steve Jobs wannabes. Money quote from AppleInsider: 'The company has yet to reveal what 'innovative technology' it is creating.'
- edited March 25
I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to say, but my best guess is that you're confusing the stated year of 1995 when they were working on the port with the official announcement of Apple agreeing to buy NexT (because the port was clearly going to work) and getting Jobs to be the interim-CEO (iCEO) which happened on 16 September 1997.How would he have bought the NeXT 'specifically' for that in 1995? Steve wasn't back at Apple and OS X wasn't in the work.
He had the NeXT fo years and brought it in to proof Steve wrong. - edited March 25
In terms of wanting to want to change the tech world why is that a bad goal? Should people simply give up if they they won't be the next Steve Jobs?More Steve Jobs wannabes. Money quote from AppleInsider: 'The company has yet to reveal what 'innovative technology' it is creating.' - Retelling Imran's story, PPT style, for clarity:
• in 1995, while interning at apple, i bought a NeXT cube for $150 at stanford surplus
• while designing mac os X with steve, he liked to tell us how the NeXT was better
• so i started bringing in my cube to win arguments by showing him that things weren't as good as he remembered
• this happened so often that it got to the point where if he walked in and saw the cube in the room, he'd just let it go
• still the best $150 i've spent - I really like stories like this, shows how hands-on Steve was and how he had a part in every aspect of the company.edited March 25
Yeah because if that was the case, Cook best quit now.
In terms of wanting to wants to change the tech world why is that a bad goal? Should people simply give up if they they won't be the next Steve Jobs?More Steve Jobs wannabes. Money quote from AppleInsider: 'The company has yet to reveal what 'innovative technology' it is creating.' - edited March 25
Apple didn’t announce their intention to buy NeXT until December 1996. It is hard to believe that Apple was working with Steve Jobs as early as 1995. I’m guessing that the designer is misremembering the date.
I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to say, but my best guess is that you're confusing the stated year of 1995 when they were working on the port with the official announcement of Apple agreeing to buy NexT (because the port was clearly going to work) and getting Jobs to be the interim-CEO (iCEO) which happened on 16 September 1997.How would he have bought the NeXT 'specifically' for that in 1995? Steve wasn't back at Apple and OS X wasn't in the work.
He had the NeXT fo years and brought it in to proof Steve wrong.Edit: According to Avi Tevanian NeXT wasn’t even in contact with Apple until just about a month before the decision to acquire them. So that 1995 date is definitely wrong.https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2017/07/102740143-05-01-acc.pdf - The guy is doing a shameless self-promotion on the back of a guy who can’t contradict him anymore.edited March 25
NeXT was better, in MANY ways, e.g. the side on which scrollbars are is more efficient for western left-to-right scripts.
E.g. the floating, pop-up-able, vertical application menu is much better than the menu bar, the latter sucking badly both on small and really big/multiple screens.
A guy who buys a NeXT to prove his point without actually having adapted to the NeXT workflow has zero credibility.
I used NeXTs from 1989 till … and both Mac OS of various flavors before and after. There are still Tricks NeXTStep could teach macOS, which ever more turns into a version Windows, because the number of people at Apple who still understand the design principles of NeXT and have any influence are homeopathically diluted… - The Open Sesame Distributed computing App blew my mind.
Yeah, I miss the Shelf to this day.The guy is doing a shameless self-promotion on the back of a guy who can’t contradict him anymore.
NeXT was better, in MANY ways, e.g. the side on which scrollbars are is more efficient for western left-to-right scripts.
E.g. the floating, pop-up-able, vertical application menu is much better than the menu bar, the latter sucking badly both on small and really big/multiple screens.
A guy who buys a NeXT to prove his point without actually having adapted to the NeXT workflow has zero credibility.
I used NeXTs from 1989 till … and both Mac OS of various flavors before and after. There are still Tricks NeXTStep could teach macOS, which ever more turns into a version Windows, because the number of people at Apple who still understand the design principles of NeXT and have any influence are homeopathically diluted…
Another interesting milestone to think about is Swift. When Apple announced Swift, I felt that it represented the end of NeXTSTEP. Objective-C and a dynamic runtime is the magic that was NeXTSTEP, Mac OS X and its derivatives. As Swift increasingly becomes the default language for app development and as Obj-C becomes deprecated, I think it represents a different type of operating system. It really would deserve a Mac OS XI or Mac OS 11 moniker when that happens.
Speaking of the NeXTcube, it was a beautiful industrial design. I'm not talking about the outside. I'm talking about the inside. Was hoping that Apple returns to that type of design: a I/O mezzanine with boards that slot into it. Had 2 slots on opposite ends of the mezzanine board (4 slots total) with 5.25' bays and power supply in between. The CPU system board and NeXTdimension GPU/media board would go into the slots. Apple has variants of this with the Mac Pro through the years, but never all the way. The 2019 Mac Pro could have gone all the way if the CPU and RAM were on a daughter board with a 64 lane PCIe interface. The 2013 Mac Pro essentially did the CPU main board, I/O mezzanine board and PCIe slots for GPU boards, but it was expandable like the NeXTcube was or the 2019 Mac Pro is.
Will be interesting what Apple does with the rumored Mac Half Pro. Half because it is rumored to be about half the size of the 2019 Mac Pro. If it is $2000 definitely quite tempted.- I still have my OpenStep computer but need a keyboard and mouse for it. It would be fun to fire it up.
Would this help?I still have my OpenStep computer but need a keyboard and mouse for it. It would be fun to fire it up.
https://www.drakware.com/shop/p/nextusb- edited March 26